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| loves2turn | Nov 14 2008, 04:59 PM Post #1 |
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Carly comes storming into the police station with all cylinders firing. Apparently poor Sage is just too traumatized to go to school, she's afraid she might run into Janet.  Jack insists that Janet didn't do it, that Sage is just making stuff up again and that Janet is a good mother. And Carly says, "Oh, you mean that brownieslinging sex toy?  Carly is furious and says that she will do anything she can to protect Sage, and that means keeping her away from Janet.  Later, at Metro, Carly asks Bonnie to help her to legally keep Janet away from her kids. Bonnie says she doesn't practice law anymore, and besides, if the judge thinks that Carly is pursuing a frivilous lawsuit, it could lead to Carly to losing custody, and at the very least, things could get ugly with Jack. Carly still wants to go ahead...  So, Bonnie leaves and then very quickly returns with paperwork and having already lined up a judge. She again tries to get Carly to rethink this, especially as she starts to pick up how much Carly dislikes Janet and doesn't want her with Jack. But you know Carly.  Katie and Brad are at Al's. Brad's having a huge breakfast, to make up for living on jail food for so long... (What? for 1 day?  ) Katie just can't eat, she's on pins and needles waiting to hear what the mysterious helper wants in return for their favor. Finally they decide to go to WOAK to get their jobs back. Kim has other ideas, and says the sponsors don't want Brad back onair yet. Katie is irate that Brad has been blacklisted. Kim offers to let Katie come back onair, but Katie just won't without Brad. (I think what really happened is that Kim took one look at that hideous outfit Katie had on and thought that no way was this chick going onair... ) Later, Brad and Katie are back at Al's and Katie suggests they get into the bigger markets, like Chicago. After all, they're big fish in a small pond in Oakdale, and Chicago is the ocean.  Liberty's up early, even though no school. She's got to help Parker with that V8 Food drive... she notices that Janet's been looking through her special scrap book titled MY DREAM WEDDING.... she's really worried because she's afraid that things won't work out with Janet and Jack, and Janet will be hurt big time.... Janet tells her to butt out...  Parker shows up and Lib tries to talk him into trying to get Carly to change her mind about Janet. Parker actually seems like he'd be willing to talk to Carly, but Janet insists that the two of them stay out of this. So they head off to the farm to wait for miniVan, as Parker calls him, to come pick up a bunch of food.... Liberty's still teasing around, trying to get Parker to intervene with Carly.... In the end, though, they agree to be friends, no matter if Parker says anything to Carly or not. They  and Parker warns Liberty that if she stays there one minute longer.... Parker would like that, but Liberty pulls away and now the two of them are arguing about their moms and Jack... and from there it gets onto their own relationship or non-relationship.... Parker says he feels like Liberty is giving him mixed signals. Of course Liberty denies it. mini-Van comes back just then, and offers to drive Liberty home, and she takes him up on his offer... Meanwhile, Jack shows up at Janet's and tells her about Carly's visit. Janet is devastated, but Jack reassures her, and says that he's taken some personal time, so they should start getting personal. :kissing Before they can plan their entire day, though, Carly shows up with "something important for you, Jack". She hands him a manilla envelope and tells him he's been served. When Jack sees that she's suing him over custody, he loses it. Janet intervenes and says that she's willing to not have any contact with Sage. Carly says that's all she's asking, and Jack said yes, that's what you said, and I said no, and I meant it. Nobody's telling he how to treat my kids! Carly and Jack start to rehash the Simon thing, and both get madder and madder... Carly insists that all she wants is to keep her kids safe, but Jack says that if Carly brings this before a judge, the judge is going to learn about every stupid thing Carly ever did and it isn't going to turn out the way she wants it to... Now Carly gets all soft and hurt, and in a breathy voice tells Jack, "You wouldn't take my kids from me..." Jack responds by saying, "You started this. Take me to court and see what happens."  Carly leaves and Jack tells Janet that this is a fight he can't lose. Sadly, Janet says that everybody will lose. Jack insists that there's more to this than Carly thinking Janet hit Sage. Jack insists that he's not giving up. He's going to be in control of his life. Janet tells him that they've got to postpone the wedding.... Jack says no way, he's going to fix this, there's nothing he wouldn't do for Janet... By now Katie and Brad are in Chicago and Katie's already set up an interview with a top guy named Dave. Not only that, she's bought Brad a couple of ties to wear. Well, one of them.... The interview doesn't go well. Dave says the same things Kim did about Brad's being under suspicion for murder. Needless to say, Katie and Brad aren't pleased as they leave...Later, they're walking down the street in Chicago, hand in hand, and Brad's saying he only has himself to blame for this, he should have listened to Katie. Katie insists that Spencer was into some shady stuff and that's what got her killed...Brad goes to wait in the car while Katie walks across the street to get coffee... Suddenly he's shocked to see Spencer crossing the street! He yells her name and she turns and then runs off, with Brad right after her... He doesn't catch up to Spencer, but he tells Katie about the sighting. Katie doesn't believe it was really Spencer, but Brad insists, saying they've got to find Spencer to prove she's still alive, and to clear Brad's name. Carly goes back to Metro and tells Bonnie that Jack is going to fight her in court. Bonnie says well, things will get ugly. Carly says Jack's already let her know that. Bonnie says that Carly has got to be absolutely positive if she wants to win this case. Carly says, then there's no problem, I'm positive.  Well, kind of a turnaround today. Usually it's Jack threatening to take the kids away from Carly.... Who, who, who dresses Katie? Do they hate her?  Although there was a good show of boob...Speaking of boobs, whenever Carly came onscreen today, it was like she was leading with her "girls". I'll probably get  but I don't like what Carly's doing. I know people are saying that although WE know Sage made up Janet hitting her, Jack doesn't, and he shouldn't be so quick to believe Janet, but to me, with Sage's record, and not just recently, but for some time now, disliking Janet and Jack together, it isn't farfetched that Jack would be suspicious. But the bottom line is that Carly is going waaaaay overboard.  On the other hand, Jack could listen to Janet and just keep Sage and Janet away from each other for awhile, too.... so.... I'm really most interested right now in this whole Spencer and the mysterious "helper" storyline, even though it involves Katie and Brad.
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| Karen | Nov 14 2008, 05:43 PM Post #2 |
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I don't like what Carly's doing, either, but it does bug me that Jack isn't taking what Sage says at all seriously. I know that she's lying, but it's a serious thing, either way. She did have a bruise on her face. Plus, if he thinks that she's lying, he should be over at the house talking to her, instead of pretending that everything's okay. I'm interested in the whole Spencer thing, too. She must have gotten ahold of Dusty's drug. |
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| Judy | Nov 14 2008, 06:37 PM Post #3 |
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I don't like what Carly is doing but I understand why she's doing it. I don't like what Jack is doing even less and that I can't understand. I don't think we can say Carly should know Sage is lying because Carly did ask Sage again when they were alone if Janet had really hit her. Every other time Sage has been honest when it was just her and Carly. So why should Carly automatically assume this time she would lie when she has always been honest with Carly in the past? It is also true to Carly's character to do anything and everything to protect her family. We saw that with the beautiful baby boy story and Gwen and she admitted that in court. And keeping in mind the awful childhood Carly had, I can see her wanting to protect Sage. Remember Carly did have a bad step-mother. And then there was step-mother wannabe Iris too. I don't think Carly had any intent of letting things go so far until Jack was so insistent on having Janet around when he sees Sage. What bothers me with Jack is that he hasn't once talked to Sage about what is going on. He assumes this is because she doesn't want him marrying Janet, but what if there is some other reason? My guess is in all honesty some of it is a fear she is also losing her dad to Janet. And why not do as Janet agreed to do and just have her back off? If this is only because Sage wants her parents together, chances are she would come around once Jack and Janet marry and she sees everyone else adjusting. He's just trying to push it too fast. Jack needs to learn to compromise too. Sure he can bring up Carly's past and possibly take the kids from her but what will that do to his relationship with his kids? My guess is it would destroy it. I don't think it was just a coincidence that we saw Parker standing up for Carly today. Jack's admitted she's a good mother. Why not try to discuss all of this calmly? Jack has done a total 180 from a month ago without any explanation. Carly didn't screw up this time so why all the anger? And Liberty is getting on my last nerve. She's more conniving than Sage but she's better at it so for now she's getting a free pass. She's totally using Parker. And just why is she so desperate for Janet to be married? Bottom line I hate the destruction of Carly and Jack in this story and this just isn't fun to watch. I have zero interest in the Spencer story and Katie and Brad are total idiots. First off still being a suspect do they really think Brad could leave town It doesn't surprise me though that Katie who has always gotten things her way would think she could also in this. How could they not realize that the accusations against Brad would make any sponsor afraid of attaching their name to him.
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| loves2turn | Nov 14 2008, 06:54 PM Post #4 |
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I agree, Karen, Jack definitely needs to be spending time with Sage, trying to get to the bottom of things, and really, having some more family counseling.
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| loves2turn | Nov 14 2008, 06:58 PM Post #5 |
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Yeah, I can definitely understand where Carly's coming from, it just doesn't make me like it anymore. But yeah, Jack is really being unreasonable. He seems to be that kind of character, though, ie digging his feet in and not being willing to take good advice no matter what...  Well, Katie and Brad, I think it's just a given that they're idiots, no? I do want to know what's behind Spencer, though, even though I know it's not going to amount to a hill of beans in the long run...
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| Judy | Nov 14 2008, 07:11 PM Post #6 |
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I actually think the whole story sucks and see no reason for them to have gone this way. Carolyn Hinsey in this weeks SOD says she thinks they may have gone too far this time and will just cause many CarJackers to tune out. And that is a lot coming from her because she isn't a CarJacker and really doesn't like Carly but even she realizes how this is alienating the fans. I can attest to that as I'm hanging by a thread and will be out too if something doesn't change soon. |
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| joroja | Nov 14 2008, 10:29 PM Post #7 |
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I have never been a Carly fan nor a Carly and Jack fan. I know this is a soap and so ridiculous at times, but for the life of me I can't understand why there are so many fans of Carly Sage is just a carbon copy of her mother so that is why Carly chooses to believe her. Sage did not tell Carly the truth this time because she knows Carly will tell Jack the truth. I wonder how Sage got that mark on her face because she did not hit herself I like Jack and Janet together, though I think Jack thinks he loves Janet. I really like Janet because sheis not pulling any punches. I have an idea, set up Sage and get the proof you need Detective Snyder  and then take the family to counseling. |
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| RogerNewcomb | Nov 14 2008, 11:00 PM Post #8 |
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Carly doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of getting custody of her kids over Jack. Regardless of all the crap he's pulled, most of hers is public record. And the fact that she has a long record - was on probation then skipped town with Simon. That is not something she wants dragged through the mud. And it's all based on believing Sage, which is nice in theory, but Carly should be the smartest woman in Oakdale and not so easily fooled by a little girl. Brad seemed off today. I think this character is just done. I like Janet more every day. Being away from Brad and Katie helps a lot. Parker and Liberty are more tolerable for me these days, but I still don't think they make a good couple. |
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| JuliaGRO | Nov 15 2008, 12:59 AM Post #9 |
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I agree. Since Carly rejected Jack in the hospital I've had a growing sense of "they've gone too far this time." I know I've been on the string, feeling that a reconciliation was on the horizon ever since the episode with Sam and the freakin' dummy. How long has that been?... I don't even want to know... Nope. It's been one thing after another since then, dangling the carrot right in front of us and then yanking it back, but only a little so that we stay engaged, still thinking "oh, it's inevitable now so why not wait.." Well here it is, years later (it seem anyway) and they've got us right in the same place... Only now they're going back to the same tired triangle story again. As a Carjacker I can put up with a lot (beit grudgingly at times) but after waiting this long for some semblance of a payoff, to be "rewarded" with YET ANOTHER stale, stupid-ass, character-assasinating, children-as-bargaining chip using, lovelessly-marrying, Jack-and-Carly-fight-about-everything-and-everyone-except-the-REAL-problem-because-they-are-so-brain-dead-that-they-can't-figure-out-that-they-belong-together piece of crap? I don't know if I can handle another one of those. Seriously, after Jack started with the showering of ILY's on Janet, I started to check-out mentally. I don't like what Carly is doing. I don't like what Jack is doing... It's actually ironic how they say their relationship is so "toxic." I think they are both better people when they're together. Not perfect people, but better people. :/ Quite frankly, apart, they suck! |
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| loves2turn | Nov 15 2008, 07:16 AM Post #10 |
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Sage actually did hit herself, well, she slapped her cheek, which in reality would never have left that mark she's sporting. 
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| Patty | Nov 15 2008, 08:55 AM Post #11 |
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I agree with most everything Judy has said about this story except I don't EVER want Jack and Carly back together. That boat has sailed IMO. It's over. I really, really HATE Janet (like Julie Pinson though). I don't care about her character and I don't care about Jack's character and since they are together, that's fine, just FF material for me. Jack is a superduper ASSHOLE and has been for a very, very, very, very long time. Why anyone would want to be with that sanctimonious jerk is beyond me. They have ruined the character of Jack. And if TPTB take this down the road they are taking it (an all out custody war), there is no way to save Jack. I was for a long, long time the biggest Carly and Jack fan. I thought they were "destined" to be together. Well, NO MORE. Move Carly far, far away from Jack. Sage is wrong, but as Judy says, why isn't Jack taking some time to be alone with her and talk to her and act like he cares about what her feelings are. But no Jack's happiness is much more important than Sage's feelings or trying to deal with Sage. I am counting the days until the character of Craig comes back. It is my fervent wish and hope that they explore Craig and Carly again. I like Jon Lindstrom and hope he brings his own brand to Craig (I think he will depending on TPTB). I kind of liked Liberty and Parker at one point but not anymore. She is USING him. She is JUST AS MANIPULATIVE as Sage but is getting a free pass. She is OLDER than Sage and knows what she is doing. Sage is a little girl but she gets pounded while few people get on Liberty. There will NEVER EVER be a time when I have sympathy for Janet or Liberty or Jack. No how, no way!! |
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| Judy | Nov 15 2008, 09:17 AM Post #12 |
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The thing is the show has learned they can't afford to keep Jack and Carly apart in different stories because the ratings drop too much when they do that. What I don't understand is why they think such destructive stories work either. While the show thinks they are boring when they are happy, which I disagree with, they forgot that what made them work in the past when they were apart was you could always still see the love between them and the desire to be together. JP has destroyed that and turned it to anger and hatred which isn't fun to watch. The last person I would want to see Carly with is Craig and think it would be total character destruction of Carly to do that. First off they got well past that when Craig and Rosanna married. But for Carly to ever forgive what Craig did to her sisters, first to Gwen with the baby switch when he subsequently tired to kidnap the baby from Carly and then putting Rosanna in the coma would totally go against who Carly is. Family is far too important for Carly to forgive that. The last time she saw him she wanted him out on the front porch with the rest of the trash and I think that's the attitude she would keep. I wouldn't be opposed to her seeking revenge on Craig and having them involved in story that way, but would never buy a romantic interest. Plus I still think ultimately Craig will be paired with Janet. |
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| Judy | Nov 15 2008, 09:20 AM Post #13 |
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I completely agree. It's just like saying they are boring when they are happy. No boring is the repeated triangles and fighting. When they are interesting is when they put aside their differences and work together as a team. They can do that if they are a happy couple too. |
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| brycefan | Nov 15 2008, 09:43 AM Post #14 |
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Some have asked why we are Carly fans or CarJack fans. I love their chemistry, and I love both actors. They play off each other so well, and act so well on their own. So I think if I didn't like the actors, I would have had much less tolerance all these years. It is really rare in a soap to have two actors who work so well with each other, who have that chemistry that lights up the screen and makes us want to see them together. I have been a CarJack fan since the characters first met, so I have a lot invested in them, and I'm still willing to put up with a lot as long as the acting is good :). I agree with those that say that while Carly is blowing things way out of proportion where Sage is concerned, I certainly understand her fears about Janet (although unfounded). But Carly should have agreed to counseling for Sage first, and Jack should have agreed to allow Janet and Sage to stay away from each other. Carly can't win a custody fight, but she will also put serious doubt by the courts on Janet's fitness as a mother (or stepmother). I really don't see how anyone could win here. |
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| MartyB | Nov 15 2008, 08:42 PM Post #15 |
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Just a couple of thoughts. Carly was totally in the wrong. She is not taking Jack to court & getting a restraining order on Janet because she really believes Sage. She wants to believe Sage & will run away from the truth because in that way she can justify her actions. Carly knows what she's lost here. After all she basically browbeat Jack to death on Janet's virtues & rejected Jack several times when she had a chance to give it a try at a reconciliation. On the other hand Jack is acting impervious to the damage this self-destructive rush to marriage is doing to his children. He is in denial because he thinks that his kids will always accept his decisions. They aren't & he doesn't want to acknowledge that. Over the last month we witnessed some great moments with J&C & I am shocked at this sudden turn of events in the last week. It's almost as if TPTB changed the direction they were heading with J&C. As much as I enjoyed Janet & Julie Pinson the question begs to be asked: is all this destructive & mean spirited storyline worth it at the expense of J&C? All one has to do is look how badly the whole Holden Carly affair was received by fans & poorly thought out it was. As long as JP is HW CarJackers have to accept the fact that we will have to watch every ounce of blood dry up before we can expect any kind of reconciliation. It's just not in the cards & I am no longer blinded to that fact. |
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