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Making Babies 101; What do we want to watch? What would...
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flashdance	Mar 4 2009, 03:30 PM Post #1
Advanced Member Posts: 11,246 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: August 31, 2008	What do we want to watch? What do we want on a soap opera? What should be considered "stepping over the line"? Why are BABY MAKING STORIES considered SUCH BIG TOPICS? This whole KATIE and BRAD BABY saga is destroying ANY DESIRE THAT I HAVE to watch this soap opera? What I SEE....which can be quite different than what YOU SEE.... Is a WOMAN wanting to have a child by any means which has included NOT INFORMING her HUSBAND...something that I want to watch grace my screen from the TIME OF INCEPTION....THE CARRYING OF THE CHILD to TERM and BIRTH....and the GROWTH OF THE CHILD until he/she) is an adult? Do we have to imagine watching two couples...ONE WHOM CANNOT CONCEIVE...and the OTHER WHERE THE WOMAN would like to CARRY A CHILD ... and the MAN TO NOT HAVE A CHILD? And NOW if the EGG is not going to be produced....LET's JUST HAVE THE MAN of COUPLE A fertilize the EGG in the WOMAN OF COUPLE B and then expect that these FOUR FRIENDS would REALLY BE FRIENDS once the baby is out of the womb and in the proper arms of the "parents"? WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE ATWT's PowersThatBe thinking???? It is one thing to just sit back and "ignore" all of the baby stories on a soap opera. There tends to always be ENOUGH OTHER DRAMA for myself to stay tune through the day and on into the next day. BUT JP and TEAM are taking things a BIT TOO FAR and I want these NUT CASES OFF OF MY SOAP OPERA. I would be much happier if one woman would have a litter of EIGHT KIDS so that the next batch of actors that have to be SORASed will all be born at the same time and grow together accordingly. I have NEVER WATCHED ANYTHING ON MY television screen that is DRIVING ME MORE INSANE THAN WHAT I AM now on ATWT.



aetmauro	Mar 4 2009, 04:23 PM Post #2
Advanced Member Posts: 4,468 Group: Members Member #46 Joined: September 2, 2008	Flashy, I'm going to play the role of Devil's Advocate for this topic. First of all, I agree with you that the show is focusing A LOT on babies and young children right now - more than many viewers are interested in. I think it's fairly safe to say that JP doesn't give a rat's a$$ about what the viewers are actually interested in seeing, though. Second, on soaps, people fall in love. Sometimes they get married. They almost always have sex. Sometimes someone gets pregnant (the odds are kind of high since the percentage of people having sex is high). The pregnancy can be aborted, go full term, or end in miscarriage. If a baby is born, it will either live or die. The baby's impact on the people around him/her can be big or small. AND so on... My point is that there is the potential for a story in EVERY step of the above - from friendship, romance, sex, results, pregnancy, birth and so on. That's not to say that the (current) writers will put together a GOOD and interesting story... Couplehood that evolves into parenthood is bound to happen to some couples on any soap. Not every viewer is going to be interested in that couple or what happens to them, but other viewers might be. Children can change the dynamic of a person and/or a couple. Sometimes that alone can be an interesting story, while others it falls flat or makes no difference. Some of the characters that we discuss in great detail on this board are often measured by how they treat their spouses, friends, and children. Look at Carly, for example. In some ways, she's the same person who first came to Oakdale and snagged Mike from Rosanna and ended up pregnant (there's that word again... ). For Rosanna, it wasn't enough that Mike cheated on her with Carly but it was WORSE because Carly ended up pregnant. Carly came back, without a child, but clearly, the show was going to make Carly a mom at some point. Many of Carly's turning points have been around her feelings for her children or the kind of mother she wants to be. At times, her children have been front and center, when they were little (especially Parker). Given some of the stories of Parker the show has had since his birth, they often come into play in current storylines - his bond with Jack, who delivered him and became his father. The psychic thing that links him to Jack AND Paul. And now, his relationship with Johnny. Sometimes, you have to put up the baby stuff so that there's a foundation of sorts for when the child grows into a teen and then some. Lily's childhood, even with the pre-teen stuff being exclusively off-screen, is STILL such a part of who she is and how she reacts. Ditto with Alison, whose CONCEPTION is still messing her head! (as it should, IMO!) Hunt Block completely sold me as "Craig" when the episode of Bryant's death aired. I remember when Bryant was BORN, with a different Craig and Sierra. But HB's reaction and grief as a parent losing a child was heartbreaking - and an amazing performance. It resonated with me because it was not hard to remember Bryant's birth and childhood and Craig's part in both. So my long winded point here is that I'm sorry that the baby stuff is driving you nuts AND turning you off from the show. I take it in stride and think of it as a natural progression of the core families that make up the show. Babies don't turn up under cabbage leaves and they don't just stroll into town when they're 14 and ready to tackle an interesting storyline. And the implications of having 1 female character give birth to the future teens on the show - EEEEWWWWWWW! I still cringe with Parker and Liberty, so what would 8 siblings be able to do on screen? Sing and dance a la the Osmonds? Frankly, the kidnappings, tampered blood tests, wishy washy relationships (MEG!), newbies in town with NO connections to the show, John Dixon still at a bar, and character assassinations tick me off far more than any baby story could. Edited by aetmauro, Mar 4 2009, 04:24 PM.
	--- Anni ----


flashdance	Mar 4 2009, 04:51 PM Post #3
Advanced Member Posts: 11,246 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: August 31, 2008	Man, ANNI...I TOTALLY AGREE with you. But I am just not getting what and where and how this BRAD, KATIE, HENRY and VIENNA business is going to go anywhere positive. And I have to agree with some of the statements that have been made about some of the conversations between VIENNA and KATIE....and KATIE and BRAD and even HENRY and VIENNA....but Given that we have a VANILLA COUPLE with the inability to conceive....I am just not supporting this new TWIST with how the baby is going to be born and carried for KATIE and BRAD.



RichB	Mar 4 2009, 05:15 PM Post #4
Member Posts: 228 Group: Members Member #465 Joined: December 8, 2008	The only development that comes to my mind with this surrogate story is Brad falling hard for Vienna while she's carrying "his" child. He'll forget that its Katie's egg that was used and just focus on Vienna. And with her already emotional state, just imagine how she'll be when hormones kick in. Meanwhile poor barren Katie will sit by the sidelines moping and Henry would be her shoulder to cry on, and maybe we would see the two couples switch partners.
	TEAM CARLY


RichB	Mar 4 2009, 11:57 PM Post #5
Member Posts: 228 Group: Members Member #465 Joined: December 8, 2008	RichB Mar 4 2009, 05:15 PM He'll forget that its Katie's egg that was used and just focus on Vienna. Now that I actually watched Wednesday's show I see it would not be Katie's egg but Vienna's! Brad would become drawn to Vienna because the baby is hers as well though not created in the usual way. Of course adoption can't be done because it would take too long. The problem here is the two couples are too close and it can only lead to switching partners and destroying both couples.
	TEAM CARLY

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