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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 10 2009, 01:24 PM (577 Views) | |
| Kara | Apr 10 2009, 01:24 PM Post #1 |
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As I was watching Friday's episode, it suddenly occurred to me that the storyline with Victor & Ashley is starting to remind me of Daphne du Maurier's Rebecca. If you haven't ever read the book or seen the movie, here's a brief plot summary: http://www.enotes.com/rebecca/ The story concerns a woman who marries an English nobleman and returns with him to Manderley, his country estate. There, she finds herself haunted by reminders of his first wife, Rebecca, who died in a boating accident less than a year earlier. In this case, the haunting is psychological, not physical: Rebecca does not appear as a ghost, but her spirit affects nearly everything that takes place at Manderley. The narrator, whose name is never divulged, is left with a growing sense of distrust toward those who loved Rebecca, wondering just how much they resent her for taking Rebecca's place. Here are my ideas for the character comparisons (the character descriptions are from the same website cited above): Manderley=Newman Ranch Rebecca=Sabrina Maxim de Winter=Victor When he first appears at Monte Carlo at the beginning of the novel, Maxim is the mysterious, handsome forty-two-year-old stranger who has suffered the tragic loss of his wife eight months earlier. After a brief courtship, he asks the book's narrator to marry him, and he takes her back to his country estate, Manderley, which is famous all over the world. Whenever his late wife, Rebecca, is mentioned, he becomes excessively emotional. Mrs. de Winter=Ashley The narrator of this book is never called by her given name. Not until she is married to Maxim de Winter is she directly referred to by name. She was a poor orphan, whose parents both died within five weeks of each other. She took a job as companion to the wealthy American, Mrs. Van Hopper, with whom she is staying at Monte Carlo in the south of France when they meet Maxim de Winter. After Maxim marries her and takes her back to his estate, Manderley, she feels self-conscious about her position as mistress of the house. Okay, Ashley isn't really anything like that character because she wasn't poor and she already had a history with Victor. But I do think "she feels self-conscious about her position as mistress of the house", especially: Mrs. Danvers=Estella She is very formal and intimidating toward the new Mrs. de Winter, showing her how things are done at the house and practically insisting that the traditions that Rebecca started be continued. Jack Favell=Adam He is a bold, annoying man, who makes leering, suggestive remarks, offering Mrs. de Winter cigarettes and asking her to go for a ride in his car. He is obviously familiar with the estate: the young dog, Jasper, knows him, and he refers to Mrs. Danvers as "old Danny." She later finds out that he is Rebecca's cousin and that Maxim does not want him in the house. In addition, he and Rebecca were lovers. I know Adam wasn't Sabrina's lover, but for those of us who always suspected there was something going on between them, the description is close enough. (And I still think if Adam was having an affair with Sabrina and conspiring against Victor with her, it have been a better story than what actually transpired.) ************ So, what do you all think? -Kara |
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| loves2turn | Apr 10 2009, 01:39 PM Post #2 |
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I did read the book, and after reading your characterization comparisons, I guess I can see the similarities, but honestly, I wouldn't have come up with it on my own.  Funny you posted today, cause I was going to post and ask WTH is going on with Paul's daughter, the ADA, that she's being so hateful toward Kevin? I didn't watch the entire show, but I saw the part where she wasn't going to allow bail OR a psychiatric eval.... Did she change her mind, or not? 
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| Kara | Apr 10 2009, 01:47 PM Post #3 |
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Heather was really acting like a hard-ass, wasn't she? I don't know why, except that she seems to hate Michael because he's won so many cases, and she hasn't. Maybe she thinks this is an open-and-shut case and she'll finally get a conviction. They haven't gotten into the actual hearing yet. They were just bringing Kevin into the courtroom in the final scene. Heather will probably argue against bail and a psychiatric evaluation. Michael already told his family there's no way Kevin can get bail, but he's going to try to get Kevin committed to a psychiatric hospital for now, so he can get help. The judge has to make the final ruling, and looking at Kevin, I don't see how a judge could possibly NOT agree to a psychiatric evaluation of some kind. BTW, Michael was making me mad the way he was treating Jeff. Jeff is no saint, but he really meant well with Kevin -- and he was awfully forgiving after Kevin beat the shit out of him ("He thought I was Tom ... He had to get it off his chest...") -Kara |
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| loves2turn | Apr 11 2009, 07:02 AM Post #4 |
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Although I didn't see the part with Michael being a jerk toward Jeff, I can easily imagine it. Michael can definitely rate high on the jerk scale!  I don't quite know what to think about this "traumatized Kevin adeux" storyline. This is one of the storylines that got me to like Kevin initially and was such a big part in his transformation from bad guy to good, though damaged guy... now, to have to see it again, I'm not liking it.... 
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