Cancellation of Guiding Light?

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Cancellation of Guiding Light?
Tweet Topic Started: Apr 1 2009, 09:34 AM (2,020 Views)
loves2turn	Apr 1 2009, 04:04 PM Post #16
Advanced Member Posts: 29,326 Group: Members Member #2 Joined: August 31, 2008	I think the whole storyline possibility of there even being an Otalia is one of the stupidest things ever, and if they brought it to ATWT, I'd be doing a lot of FFing...



Judy	Apr 1 2009, 04:12 PM Post #17
Advanced Member Posts: 17,843 Group: Members Member #6 Joined: August 31, 2008	RichB Apr 1 2009, 03:50 PM I wonder if tptb at ATWT would welcome Ellen Wheeler to the team. She is a good director and would even be a good choice as new head writer. She is a good director but I don't think the show needs more directors. What would qualify her as a head writer however? Does she even have any writing experience? And since many blame her for many of the GL problems over the last few years, why would we want her at ATWT?



lovingatwt	Apr 1 2009, 04:20 PM Post #18
Advanced Member Posts: 2,935 Group: Members Member #15 Joined: September 1, 2008	What sad news for fans of GL I watched a long time ago so I'm not up on the today's show but it still makes me sad. You hate to see a staple go. And I does give me fear for ATWT. I hope they are able to work out a new place to air the show.
	~Janet~ http://atwt4us.ipbfree.com/index.php?act=idx


lovingatwt	Apr 1 2009, 04:23 PM Post #19
Advanced Member Posts: 2,935 Group: Members Member #15 Joined: September 1, 2008	loves2turn Apr 1 2009, 04:04 PM I think the whole storyline possibility of there even being an Otalia is one of the stupidest things ever, and if they brought it to ATWT, I'd be doing a lot of FFing... I don't know who Otalia is nor do I care...ATWT has enough problems without bringing on more new people. They need to get back to the basic roots if you ask me. I'd be joining you in the FFing, Barb.
	~Janet~ http://atwt4us.ipbfree.com/index.php?act=idx


Marah	Apr 2 2009, 01:18 AM Post #20
Newbie Posts: 8 Group: Members Member #138 Joined: September 25, 2008	While I am very saddened to hear the official death knell for Guiding Light, I honestly can't say I'm sorry to see it end. It had become a mere shell of it's former self, and I was embarrassed to call myself a fan, and even embarrassed for the actors. And, for me personally, it just became too painful to watch...which is why I hadn't watched it in the last few years. The complete disappearance of the Bauer family, the complete destruction of my other all time favorite supercouple, Josh and Reva, the ridiculous writing for the once mighty Spaulding family, and I could go on and on. Aging Rick and Mel's baby from an infant to a teenager in what seemed like the span of just a few months, the horrible newbies (that tall boy who wore black all the time and was Daisy's boyfriend had to be the worst casting in soap history). And, while I haven't really watched GL enough to follow the stories, from what I read about the Otalia story, I must agree with Barb in that the set up behind the creation of this new couple sounds utterly absurd. So, while I do feel bad for the actors who will lose their jobs, I am almost relieved that the grand ole lady of soaps is finally being mercifully put out of her misery....a misery brought on by the worst executive producer and head writer in soap history...well, next to Mean Jean and Gouty. Maybe now Bert and Papa Bauer can stop rolling over in their graves in disgust and finally rest in peace. Edited by Marah, Apr 2 2009, 01:22 AM.



hannahjayne	Apr 2 2009, 08:16 AM Post #21
Advanced Member Posts: 3,996 Group: Members Member #19 Joined: September 1, 2008	Isn't it a shame, Marah? It really is. I don't grasp why TPTB at shows don't realize that quality storytelling and the characters is why fans tune in every day. If they focused on those two areas, albeit major areas, their shows would improve and fans would be happy. I could care less about product placement and ratings stunts, but they don't get that.
	'nuff said


MrSnyder	Apr 2 2009, 09:33 AM Post #22
Advanced Member Posts: 7,767 Group: Members Member #26 Joined: September 1, 2008	This is sad news. GL in the mid 80s is what brought me to soaps originally. However, not unexpected news either. HJ: You make very good points.
	Ciao! B_. In matters of principle stand like a rock, in matters of taste swim with the current." ~ Thomas Jefferson


RichB	Apr 2 2009, 10:00 AM Post #23
Member Posts: 228 Group: Members Member #465 Joined: December 8, 2008	Actually if you think about it bad writing is abundant on ALL the daytime dramas so if we think about P&G what makes GL and ATWT stand out from the others is the attempt to produce quality shows on a loooooow budget. EW and CG have been given a task that no one could envy to keep up the production of shows with a LOT less money. Because they can't afford big new sets or even locations outside of NYC they are forced to write around this. Sometimes such constraints has worked like Raven Lake on ATWT or the use of the small town in NJ for GL. But GL I think had more problems with the shaky cameras, bad sound and use of EW's office as a set! From a production standpoint it made GL totally unrecognizable. Meanwhile over at ATWT we have business meetings at the Lakeview lounge or Metro, one section of Memorial functioning for every kind of medical issue, Kim,Bob, Lucinda and Susan never seen at home. . Lately GL's writing has been more intriguing but still when we think of quality productions, at CBS its the Bell shows and its all the shows at ABC. ABC especially has the best budgets when you want to blow something up. Not that we always want to see that but that sort of crap brings in the viewers in the short term! So while ATWT needs to get its act together with the writing, they also need more money to invest in the show. If they use the new budget to destroy the old sets in glorious fashion they could rise out of the ashes with both a beautiful look and top notch actors. Maybe even bring back the old attractive sets and the older, excellent actors EH, EF, MM, KW. Otherwise the show's gonna start to appear like amateur night at the local community center!
	TEAM CARLY


Judy	Apr 2 2009, 10:18 AM Post #24
Advanced Member Posts: 17,843 Group: Members Member #6 Joined: August 31, 2008	And the bad news keeps on coming. Acoording to Daytime Confidential, ATWT was told they were renewed for a year but that would be the last renewal they get. PGP is supposedly shopping ATWT and GL as a package deal to other places and it looked like they might have worked something out with SoapNet but that fell through a month ago According to Daytime Confidential Read the article HERE.



Judy	Apr 2 2009, 10:21 AM Post #25
Advanced Member Posts: 17,843 Group: Members Member #6 Joined: August 31, 2008	RichB Apr 2 2009, 10:00 AM So while ATWT needs to get its act together with the writing, they also need more money to invest in the show. If they use the new budget to destroy the old sets in glorious fashion they could rise out of the ashes with both a beautiful look and top notch actors. Maybe even bring back the old attractive sets and the older, excellent actors EH, EF, MM, KW. Otherwise the show's gonna start to appear like amateur night at the local community center! What new budget? If anything their budget is getting smaller as it was said awhile ago that CBS was going to cut what they paid for shows not owned by CBS. They aren't getting money from Guiding Light for their budget. I still think the writing is key. I could care less what the set is if it's a compelling story and well acted. I only pay attention to the set when I'm bored with the story and my attention wanders.



lovingatwt	Apr 2 2009, 10:53 AM Post #26
Advanced Member Posts: 2,935 Group: Members Member #15 Joined: September 1, 2008	So the writing's on the wall....sorry, but I'm not too optimistic here. With the writing/storylines we've had the last few years, iI don't hold out much hope I guess on the up side, if things stay as bad as they are, I won't feel like I'm missing much.
	~Janet~ http://atwt4us.ipbfree.com/index.php?act=idx


RichB	Apr 2 2009, 12:14 PM Post #27
Member Posts: 228 Group: Members Member #465 Joined: December 8, 2008	Judy Apr 2 2009, 10:21 AM RichB Apr 2 2009, 10:00 AM So while ATWT needs to get its act together with the writing, they also need more money to invest in the show. If they use the new budget to destroy the old sets in glorious fashion they could rise out of the ashes with both a beautiful look and top notch actors. Maybe even bring back the old attractive sets and the older, excellent actors EH, EF, MM, KW. Otherwise the show's gonna start to appear like amateur night at the local community center! What new budget? If anything their budget is getting smaller as it was said awhile ago that CBS was going to cut what they paid for shows not owned by CBS. They aren't getting money from Guiding Light for their budget. I still think the writing is key. I could care less what the set is if it's a compelling story and well acted. I only pay attention to the set when I'm bored with the story and my attention wanders. I sure would like to see some Instruction Manual showing how to create a show on the cheap and still bring in the quality and the ratings. Its not possible if the intention is to create a glamorous escape from reality. Enough money could buy better writers along with the better actors and more varied sets. Since we can't expect epic costume dramas on a daily basis and since the budget is SOOOOO tight lets redefine the show as blue collar. Make all the wealthy inhabitants of Oakdale broke from bad investments and just sell off the crap belonging to Lucinda, Paul and Lily or even Brad and Katie . Then the writing will be forced to focus on real-life characters in real life situations reflecting today's society and the sets would not be required to look fancy. Plus focus on character development instead of characters going in circles. Use the opportunity to explore new territory by creating a new set whether in studio or on location. Just get back to basics! Plus they should focus on the core families Hughes, Stewart and Snyders rather than creating any newbies. Its not possible to make a Dallas or Dynasty anymore. But it IS possible to create gritty realistic family dramas.
	TEAM CARLY


cycworker	Apr 2 2009, 07:23 PM Post #28
Newbie Posts: 52 Group: Members Member #135 Joined: September 24, 2008	I gotta agree with Marah. I absolutely LOVED Guilding Light in the 80s and 90s. When they fired Michael Zaslow, things just started to slowly unravel. It's been painful to try to hang in there and watch what the show has become. I actually gave up a few years ago. I think I'll have to watch the final episode, but that's it. I wish I could say I'm sad, but I'm not - I'm mostly glad that they are putting the old girl out of her misery. And I hate to say it, but within a year I expect to be READY for ATWT to go, too.



RogerNewcomb	Apr 2 2009, 07:25 PM Post #29
Administrator Posts: 20,208 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: August 30, 2008	Otalia is the best thing on any soap right now so they are the only characters I would want to see cross over. They also could be tied to people in Oakdale since they aren't part of core families on GL. But I'm still holding out hope GL finds a home elsewhere.


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