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| loves2turn | Apr 29 2009, 04:03 PM Post #1 |
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Crimedog Jack, as Craig called him, drags Carly and Craig down to the police station, where Margo's waiting, with her claws out... boy, she's almost drooling at the thought of nailing Craig for something... like smuggling or murder or both....  Craig's funny, cause he is absolutely clueless about why he and Carly are being questioned, and then Jack tells Craig to open one of the Midnight Sun crates that they've brought to the station, and there are the guns!  Carly's just horrified, but when Jack takes her into the interrogation room, she insists that she has no idea about any guns, and she also defends Craig. Jack is really nasty to her, as usual, saying that he knows her, and knows how easily she lets some man "charm the pants off" of her...  Meanwhile, Margo's being her usual slimey self. You know, the thing about Margo is that she always seems so happy when a supposed friend, or family member, is in trouble... she can't even act like it bothers her... what a loser!  Craig is playing things smart and not saying much of anything. At the Lakeview, Dusty's visiting Lucy and Johnny and they're busy playing happy family, and putting together puzzles.  Then Lucy gets a phone call from somebody, telling her that Cesar's been killed and the guns found! She blames herself, and Dusty, saying that because they told Cesar to take the guns off the ship, Cesar was killed. Dusty doesn't seem very worried, either about Cesar or anything else...  Out at the farm, Liberty and Janet are putting Emma's kitchen back together again, and Janet is being obnoxiously cheerful, trying to joke Liberty into a good mood... then Jack calls, and asks Janet to head over to Carly's to stay with Parker and Sage, and to be prepared to spend the night. He tells Janet that Carly might be involved in a murder, so of course Janet does what he says, even though it means she's got to take Liberty with her, cause for a change, nobody's at the farm and Janet doesn't want Liberty to stay there alone... Sage is worried about where Carly is, and is getting hungry. Parker says he'll fix her something, and she reminds him that the last time he did that, he almost burned down the house.  Anyway, there are some really sweet brother/sister scenes, and Parker shows Sage his new car and tells her where he got it. Then he gives her $1000 out of the money he's got left. Sage is shocked and grateful, but asks him why he's giving it to her, and he says to protect her, from her family in case Parker's not there...  The doorbell rings and it's Janet and Liberty. Parker's momentarily hopeful that Liberty's moving back, but then his hopes are dashed, and then he hears that his mom won't be home for awhile, and of course he and Sage both suspect that Carly's in trouble again... Parker grabs his jacket and over Janet's objections, he says he needs some air... Liberty, also against Janet's advice, follows him outside... They talk awhile, and Liberty asks Parker to come back inside, but Parker says he's not ready to listen to Janet's happy talk yet. Liberty agrees and says yeah, that can kind of gag you, at times...  Inside, Sage is doing laundry, which impresses Janet. Sage says that Carly taught her.  Janet starts going through pockets and finds the $1000 that Parker had given Sage. Oops! Sage has no trouble telling Janet that Parker gave her the money, and Janet's jaw drops. She ends up keeping the money for now... Then Parker tells Liberty about his new car, and she's impressed, and they end up going for a ride.  When they come back, Liberty admits she had fun, and says she missed this... Parker asks her if she'll give them one more chance, but she says no, she can't, she knows that wouldn't be the right thing... A sad Parker goes inside... Margo comes to Lucy's to tell her that Craig's being detained, and is surprised to see Dusty there. When Lucy learns that Craig is being suspected of murdering Cesar and smuggling guns, she wants to tell Margo the truth, but Dusty steps in and deflects her... Liberty does say, though, that she knows Craig has to be innocent. Margo wonders why Lucy is so quick to defend Craig, after all the bad blood between them. Dusty's being pretty obnoxious of course, and Margo does her best to knock him back... Ha! Dusty puts on a little act with Lucy to stop her from talking, and she picks up on it, and on that note, Margo goes back to the station. Margo gets the idea of putting Carly and Craig together in the interogation room, in the hopes that they'll turn on each other. Carly immediately starts asking Craig what the hell is going on, and he can see how upset she is, and how worried she is about what this will do to her kids... When Crimedog Jack comes in, Craig tells Jack to let Carly go, that he, Craig, is guilty but that Carly knew nothing about it. Carly is still defending Craig, but Craig sticks to his guns and eventually Jack tells her that he's letting her off the hook. He says that he knew all along that Carly didn't have anything to do with it, and she asks him why, then, he put her through this... AND... Jack says, "Because you didn't listen to me, you went ahead and partnered up with Craig, against my advice!"  Carly says, and I was  all the while, "Go to hell!" THEN, when Carly starts to call a cab to take her home, Jack says he'll drive her... She insists on talking to Craig first, and tries to get him to change his story, but Craig's sticking to it... Back at the Lakeview, Johnny's in bed and Lucy is talking about how guilty she feels and how she's got to tell the truth, she can't let her dad be blamed for smuggling and murder. Dusty, acting like he's related to Jack and Margo, says that Craig belongs in jail...  Dusty tells Lucy that Craig will hire an expensive lawyer and get out of this, then Dusty gets on his phone. Lucy asks him who he's calling, and he says he's calling his lawyer, because since Craig's in trouble, Dusty's going to try again to get custody of "my son".  Lucy can't believe that he's using this to his advantage, but Dusty brushes her objections off....Craig calls his lawyer and says that if he doesn't get down there and get Craig out, he'll never earn another $$ from Craig. So Margo then comes in and tells Craig that he almost had her believing he'd changed, but all he's done is disappoint her again. Craig's pretty much boo hoo, poor you, and asks Margo if she ever thinks she would be a better detective if she didn't jump to conclusions... Craig's lawyer hasn't shown up yet, so Margo orders a cop to take Craig to a cell. She tells Craig that yeah, maybe she jumps to conclusions, but, she's almost always right. Craig says that maybe this time she'll be proven wrong... Jack brings Carly home, and he, Janet and Liberty leave for the farm. Carly asks Sage to go get Parker, so Sage yells upstairs and Parker comes down and snottily asks Carly if she made bail.  Carly says no, because she didn't do anything wrong... When Parker and Sage learn what happened, Parker is worried that because Jack hates Craig,he won't be objective with Craig... Sage says she knows "daddy" wouldn't do that, and Carly agrees, although she doesn't really look like she believes what she's saying... later, she goes into her kitchen and tosses back some liquor.  At the farm, Janet shows Jack the money that Parker gave Sage, and tells Jack that he may be right about Craig. Jack's face gets all twisted and gloating and he says that if he has his way, Craig will pay for this... I never, ever, ever, want to see Carly and Jack together as a couple again, and I want Carly to get to crow it over Jack for a long time... what an  he is. I do like his longer hair,though.  As for Margo, why doesn't she get transferred to Siberia? I thought the show was well done, but it really made me angry. There WERE some sweet parts, though, I especially mean Parker and Sage. |
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| aetmauro | Apr 29 2009, 08:57 PM Post #2 |
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I saw the show in snippets... Carly and Jack - oh my goodness, how TPTB must hate them together... holy cow I know the actors are doing amazing work (no surprise) but it is painful and uncomfortable to see how they just clash. It's awful, it really is. I cannot believe I am rooting for Craig in this... I would like to know precisely when Margo was 'right' about a case... or anyone... or anyTHING... good heavens! Janet is like a sparkly Mary Poppins with cleavage... I'm ready for her and Liberty to leave town. ugh.My man Dusty... This version of Dusty reminds me of when he came to town and hooked up with Rose. I wasn't all that fond of him at that point, that's for sure. Parker and Sage - yet again, the show has landed some outstanding young actors and written some 'normal' scenes where they can shine. Thanks for the recap, Barb! |
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| Judy | Apr 29 2009, 09:14 PM Post #3 |
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The show made me angry too. I absolutely loathe Craig and it gets worse each day. I can't stand seeing that smirk he always has on his face And the destruction of Carly, Jack and CarJack to further pimp Craig has gone too far. As far as I'm concerned if they don't find a way to fix CarJack and reunite them when Maura returns from leave, then I'll be done with the show. I haven't forgotten all the horrible things Craig has done and I'm not going to watch him being painted as the icon of Oakdale and some hero So if it continues the way it's going, I'll be fine with it being canceled.
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| loves2turn | Apr 30 2009, 06:17 AM Post #4 |
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Judy, I'm sure there are a lot of viewers who feel just like you do. It's just unfortunate that tiic can't see that... While I am a Craig/Jon fan, what they're doing with the character is just ridiculous, I mean, truly, Craig is Craig, and I can easily live with that, but I don't get why they have to destroy so many other core characters to try and make "Craig" into something he isn't....
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| Karen | Apr 30 2009, 06:31 AM Post #5 |
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Well, I've always been a huge Carjack fan, but the writers have just done so much to destroy them, that I'm just not sure that I want them together again, which is sad. Yesterday when Jack was being so nasty to Carly I found myself thinking that I'm not sure I want Carly back with Jack again. He'd have to do a lot of changing and a lot of groveling before I'd want to see them together. I just don't know how someone who supposedly loves someone else could treat them like that. As for Craig, like Barb, I'm a Craig fan, but ITA that it's ridiculous to crown him a saint and ruin other characters at his expense. I'm only rooting for him at the moment because I can't stand Margo, so I'd like to see her eat some crow. |
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| aetmauro | Apr 30 2009, 09:35 AM Post #6 |
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I just want to clarify that I was only rooting for Craig today when he was talking to Margo and Jack (as it pertains to how Jack treats Carly and Parker). The way that Carly and Jack are being written continues to baffle me and turn me off from watching. Is there fan feedback somewhere that TPTB are getting that shows a majority of viewers love this crap?  Because I can't see how many people would like what's happening... There are core couples on the show: Bob & Kim Margo & Tom Lily & Holden Carly & Jack And JP & CG have done countless things, mostly just bad writing, to Carly/Jack apart and into unrecognizable pieces. WHY!?!?!?!?!??! It's not entertaining and it certainly isn't going to contribute to long term health of the show if things keep going the way they are! I am becoming more and more convinced the the higher ups know that the show isn't going to be renewed and they are doing what they can to make sure that, when the final episodes air, few people are going to be watching.
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| RichB | Apr 30 2009, 09:45 AM Post #7 |
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With Jack's treatment of Carly as despicable as it is, its no worse than Holden's attitude toward Lily when she slept with Dusty or Luke's attitude toward Lily when she worked with Damian. All the Snyder men are intolerant of anyone they care about associated with someone they don't trust. In the case of Jack I think he is very wary of what Carly might do because of Simon. He has never gotten over that. He will never be able to totally trust her again so their reunion would be impossible at this point anyway. Ever since Maura's return after Simon tptb tease but never deliver so Carjack is not gonna happen. The only reason Holden and Lily are still together is Dusty is no longer in their orbit and because they are married it makes sense. However because Carly's not married to Jack she can hang with whoever she wants to and does. Jack always says his concern is for the kids but he really is still protective of Carly. This arrest is an excuse to say "I told you so" about Craig. The bottom line is that Jack and Margo can't be working on cases that involve Carly and Craig. They are too close. I know this is a small town but there are other detectives I believe. But tptb can't afford any other actors so we have to deal with Jack and Margo supposedly doing their job but really just trashing their "family". Plus tptb need another excuse for Carly to take another drink! I feel that Jack and Margo's police work would not seem so inept if they were not constantly working cases that involve their own family. We expect them to be more sympathetic but they take the hard line. So why not introduce new blood to the OPD to work these cases and get Jack and Margo some major crime story that leaves their family out of it! The show has become as claustrophobic as a Lakeview hotel room in spite of the smaller cast or maybe because of it. 
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| RichB | Apr 30 2009, 10:24 AM Post #8 |
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All tptb do is use a character as a catalyst for stories and Craig is that catalyst. Its not so much that other characters are ruined to elevate Craig, its that Craig has unfortunately become the glue to put back together broken families. And he takes advantage of everyone's panicked behavior towards him. Ironic that Lucy caused this but was never intending to frame Craig. If Craig were just ignored, then he would be on the back burner and with Jon Lindstrom you want him front and center! The harsh reality is all the problems that Carly and Jack have could be worked on through counseling but JP would rather have Craig come in and fix everything! Dusty's problems with Craig were due to the stupid idea of marrying Meg instead of using his newfound wealth to buy a house for him and Johnny. And along comes Craig........
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| flashdance | Apr 30 2009, 10:40 AM Post #9 |
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I am surprised how NEW ACTORS even want to join the cast when it is tough to even figure out what the purpose of this show is. Surely there is some BLURB that a newcomer reads when he/she is introduced into the "family". I know...same old arguments and critiques.... ATWT is still my only true soap...daytime or primetime...
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| Judy | Apr 30 2009, 12:20 PM Post #10 |
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Sorry but I totally disagree with you. Exactly what the heck is Craig fixing of the problems betwen Jack and Carly??? NOTHING! He's just making them worse. They are writing Jack in a manner that many perceive to be awful in his treatment of Carly for one reason and one reason only. So that she'll turn to Craig.! The last time she saw Craig before this she said he belonged out out on the porch with the rest of the trash. Realistically she wouldn't have anything to do with him. So they suddenly had to give her money problems so she would turn to Craig and then have Jack treat her badly so she'll get closer to Craig. That is destroying Jack to prop up Craig. And there's pretty good evidence that they actually were going with a CarJack reunion last fall until they suddenly did a 180 and then we learned that Craig was returning. Why do you think that Dusty did the stupid stuff like marrying Meg? That was all slanted writing so that they could justify Craig being given custody of Johnny. They had to make Dusty look bad so they could justify giving custody to Craig. Heck they forgot to even let Dusty put on a case in the custody hearing. Even SOW called them out on their heavy handed writing that slanted it so much in favor of Craig. That too caused a ton of damage to the character of Dusty. JP and CG seem to suddenly love Craig now that he's no longer played by Scott Bryce and so they want to make him look good and in order to do that they are making others look bad. And yes Barb there are a lot that feel like me. Many turned off the show when Jack married Janet and Craig entered Carly's orbit. No wonder the show is now stuck in 6th or 7th place in the ratings. The writers counted on the CarJackers continuing to stick it out as most have done in the past but finally a lot are saying enough is enough. That's the point I'm reaching because the stories in general are just awful and not entertaining to watch. |
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| loves2turn | Apr 30 2009, 12:42 PM Post #11 |
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Rich, I have to lean toward Judy's take on the use of Craig, but either way, tiic are exposing themselves for the fools that they are.
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| RichB | Apr 30 2009, 01:08 PM Post #12 |
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Believe it or not I do agree with some of what you said. Here's the thing, I do NOT believe tptb are trying to destroy characters in order to prop up Craig. What they are doing is just as bad...they are having too many stories revolve around the same character-Craig. And they are doing this because they found an excellent actor to play him so want to use him for all he's worth! I also do not believe that tptb ever had ANY intention of reuniting Jack and Carly. If they were then I don't think they would have hired Julie Pinson. I'm not saying that having Craig in the mix is the right way to go. And we can't ignore the other characters involved with this mess. Parker is creating trouble just as much as Craig. But JP should not have involved Craig with this. Dusty wanted custody but because of his worries over Craig he tried too hard and messed things up. Its everyone's reactions to that have created chaos. How ironic that Craig's latest troubles are not his fault at all. Having Janet on the show was definitely a better decision. Now if new characters were introduce who could actually fix things instead of create chaos and if we had more detectives than just Jack and Margo many stories could go in the right direction. But tptb are only having characters react in extreme ways to Big, Bad, Craig. Better to have more positive catalysts like Janet who seems to be replacing Emma in every way except as mother to Holden and Meg!
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| Judy | Apr 30 2009, 01:31 PM Post #13 |
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I don't believe Julie Pinson was ever hired to be paired with Jack. I think she was probably hired short term then they liked her and found a way to keep her around. Even Julie said in an interview last fall that Jack and Janet would not last. She said Janet isn't stupid and she would tire of this thing between Jack and Carly and say enough and walk away. That was around the same time Michael was saying that everyone knows Jack belongs with Carly and not Janet and that Janet would get her heart broken. Plus both Michael and Maura have been told they will reunite them but just keep changing the date it will happen with some of those dates passed. And there is a mysterious still photo out there of a very happy Carly and Jack from a scene that never aired and instead at the time Carly and Jack decided not to get back together. So if they never had any intention they've been lying to Michael and Maura. In addition Barbara Bloom stated they were the long arc in the spoilers for last fall. So yes I do believe it was in the plans and changed. |
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| RichB | Apr 30 2009, 02:22 PM Post #14 |
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I would say that the actors talking about what they hoped to see in their characters was just wishful thinking and Barbara Bloom is a typical evil executive throwing b.s. to placate the CarJack fans. For the last three years, since Jennifer's death I think, tptb have turned our show into As the Dysfunctional Family Turns! It would not be so frustrating if they would just show SOME progress toward functional but it ain't happening.
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| cycworker | Apr 30 2009, 04:34 PM Post #15 |
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I still say Jack and Carly are the long arc. It is just turning out to be a longer arc than originally anticipated or planned. Why? Probably a few reasons. 1)Getting Linstrom 2)West's pregnancy 3)Getting McClain back 4)The fact that it is a given the show is on its last renewal. This is the last year of ATWT, and so they may as well drag out the reconciliation of their core couple, since it will stick this time. |
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