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| Lucinda/Brian/Luke spoiler twist!; I KNEW it! | |
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| Karen | Nov 10 2008, 07:10 PM Post #16 |
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Well, a lot depends on how Luke reacts to the kiss. If he doesn't tell Lucinda then there's the trust issue there. If Noah finds out that Luke doesn't tell Lucinda it could ruin Nuke, at least temporarily. Either way, it's bound to have an impact on their relationship. Part of the appeal of Nuke was their innocence. If Nuke's out drinking and kisses another guy, then some of that's gone. Honestly, it wouldn't bother me as much if there weren't the Lucinda factor there. Edited by Karen, Nov 10 2008, 07:12 PM.
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| Judy | Nov 10 2008, 07:12 PM Post #17 |
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And I hate that Lily and Lucinda are going to reconcile this fast. Their relationship should have been damaged for a whole lot longer. The only way I can accept that is the idiot writers botched up Dusty's exit so badly but then they didn't know that he would be back in 8 months when they wrote the exit as he didn't expect to be back. I find the whole premise of it very unappealing and it may well get the ff that some other stories are currently getting. They have Lucinda's cancer return as an excuse to mend the Lucinda/Lily relationship and then she's going to have a jerk doing this to her when she's vulnerable. One or the other might have been tolerable, but both? No thanks. |
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| loves2turn | Nov 10 2008, 07:18 PM Post #18 |
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From the spoiler, we of course don't know what Luke's reaction to the kiss will be, and if he'll tell Lucinda or not. To me that's not really the issue, although it WILL be very important as to how the story plays out. It will have a big effect on the character of Luke, as in Luke's character, I mean.  To me the issue is more why the writers have to come up with something like this that is going to get a lot of viewers turned off even more than they are now, with the carjack crap. Stupidity seems to reign. I wonder what the ratings will do. 
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| RogerNewcomb | Nov 10 2008, 07:47 PM Post #19 |
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But even this post has gotten a lot of reponse, good or bad. And I've already heard from one Nuke fan who had give up the show that they are going to come back and tune in for this. It may be like a trainwreck that will peak curiosity. My problem is I have no faith in the ATWT writers to do a proper follow up to make it more than a shock value thing versus a compelling story. |
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| loves2turn | Nov 10 2008, 08:00 PM Post #20 |
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Well, yeah, it HAS gotten a lot of response, because it's new and controversial. But once that wears off, people are either gonna love it or hate it, and those who hate it might tune out... and once they do, it won't be easy getting them back.  I agree, though, that it could be like a trainwreck, and I definitely am with you on not having faith in the ATWT writers. 
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| RogerNewcomb | Nov 10 2008, 08:11 PM Post #21 |
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Brian could be bisexual which would be very interesting on a different show. But this ATWT writing staff isn't up to the task of writing something complex like that. |
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| Judy | Nov 10 2008, 08:19 PM Post #22 |
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I fully suspect Brian will be gone from Oakdale once the truth is out. I have to agree with Barb the problem is while some Nuke fans may tune in again for this, how many others will hate the idea and tune out? The biggest problem is the writers go for shock and shock only. If we had a well developed character driven story that would be different but you know it won't be and I can't even remember when we last had decent fallout for anything. |
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| RogerNewcomb | Nov 10 2008, 08:27 PM Post #23 |
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Why would people tune out? Because one guy kisses another? Ali slept with Chris and married Aaron hours later. Where was the outrage over that? This show has a history of all their weddings revolving around the bride or groom sleeping with or kissing or wanting someone else, so this is no different. |
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| Judy | Nov 10 2008, 08:36 PM Post #24 |
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LOL I don't think many people cared enough about Ali and Aaron. Most wanted her with Chris anyhow. This is very different. People don't like what is being done to Lucinda. Many thought finally a romance for one of the older women but of course that can't be. It would be one thing if it was a healthy Lucinda that this happens to and that might have been interesting but to give her cancer and then have him do this is piling on. It has nothing to do with the fact that two guys are kissing. It's that people don't like seeing Lucinda played like this. It's taking a woman when she is at her most vulnerable and kicking her. The outrage is over what they are doing to Lucinda. And it makes Brian look like scum and destroys the character. He could have just been a good friend to Lucinda and never needed to marry her and lead her on. |
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| loves2turn | Nov 10 2008, 09:10 PM Post #25 |
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Piling it on is right! I can just imagine all the writers, etc sitting around going, "What should we do for sweeps? Oh, let's see. We can give Lucinda a recurrence of cancer. Oh yeah, that's good. Now what else? Hey, how about if we have Brian and Lucinda get married? Everybody wants her to be with somebody, right? Then, people will really be liking Brian, so let's have him be gay, or bisexual and put a move on Lucinda's grandson, who's gay? Oh yeah, that would be great! Then Lucinda finds out and is devastated... maybe we should have Luke and Brian run off together ....." It's like a bunch of squirrels...
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| RogerNewcomb | Nov 10 2008, 10:18 PM Post #26 |
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The only reason Lucinda got cancer was the same reason she got it before, to reconcile with Lily. Speaking of cancer storylines, whatever happened with Barbara's? Is she in remission now? |
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| kt1465 | Nov 11 2008, 05:34 AM Post #27 |
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One possibility is that Lucinda gets mad and gets even...... |
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| aetmauro | Nov 11 2008, 09:48 AM Post #28 |
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I don't like this story much at all... I think Lucinda's cancer returning JUST to push yet another reconciliation with Lily is absolutely ridiculous. I doubt Sierra's name will even be brought up, too, in the midst of this. The returning cancer and Lucinda's handling of it (with or without Lily) could BE the story but it will be back burnered. I'm not turned off, per say, about Brian kissing Luke as I suspect he's been stifling a lot about himself. I feel horrible for Luke, though. What an awful spot to be in. It's a shame that Brian couldn't have turned out to a long term partner for Lucinda, heaven knows she deserves and could use one. I also hope that Luke tells Lucinda as soon as possible, as I think that would be the best way to salvage a number of relationships. Would people be as interested (for whatever reasons) in this storyline if Brian made a pass at Lucy? |
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| Judy | Nov 11 2008, 10:32 AM Post #29 |
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I don't know about as interested but still as bothered. As I said previously the problem isn't because it's about two guys kissing. The problem is what this does to Lucinda. First off they are taking the only strong independent woman left in Oakdale and making her needy and desperate as the rest. No way would the Lucinda we know actually agree to marry Brian! That is way too rushed and is totally out of character! As somebody who has complained that there are no strong women on the show, that for starters offends me. Keeping in mind Liz Hubbard thought the whole marriage to James story was so ridiculous, she left the show/ let's hope she doesn't do the same this time. Then there is the whole issue of the fact Lucinda has just had a mastectomy, something that makes many women feel they will never be desirable to a man again. So what happens but her new husband goes out and kisses somebody else that he must be attracted to. It doesn't matter whether that person is male or female, it's the fact he is attracted to somebody other than his new bride. That fact alone should have a serious effect on Lucinda. However I'll be shocked if the show even deals with that aspect of it. And then the fact it's her grandson. There the effect would be the same with Lucy in that it is somebody she is related too and close to that she could easily feel betrayed her. That just makes it worse than somebody that would mean nothing to Lucinda. The thing is I bet the effect on Lucinda will be a small part of the story and instead they will focus on the shock value of Brian and Luke kissing as opposed to how it should impact all the characters involved. So for everyone that wanted Lucinda to get a story, in the end she isn't really getting a story. And the show needs to stop giving the characters deal with cancer when it is nothing more than a plot device. |
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| RogerNewcomb | Nov 11 2008, 10:47 AM Post #30 |
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Judy, I totally agree about the cancer stories. This is a very serious issue and many viewers may be dealing with it themselves or in their families. Either do it right or don't do it at all. |
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